it-1 p. 524 covenant - the purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “israel of god” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.. it-1 p. 525 covenant - the covenant remains operative between jesus christ and these associate kings forever.. w80 7/1 p. 31 - likewise, the new covenant will come to its end when all the anointed ones are resurrected to heavenly immortal life.. w79 4/1 p. 31 - the new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant who are today in that covenant mediated by christ..
The Watchtower doesn't know the bible very well:
Hebrews 13:20-21
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
The terms of the agreement for "the forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26: 27-28) in the NC are perpetual.
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
This is one person who claims many others are eye witness accounts of what Jesus said and done .It is not many others who claim they are eye witnesses of what Jesus said and done .
Big difference.
Correction: The references are from several sources. Furthermore, they explain the historical fact how tens of thousands of orthodox Jews in Jerusalem the seat of Jewish faith, left that system and put faith and trust in Jesus, a condemned criminal. They put their trust in the absolutely lowest of those cursed. "cursed is every man who hangeth upon a tree".
Why trust a "cursed man" unless he was known to never lie and walked out of a tomb. Nothing makes any sense unless Jesus really was raised from the dead.
“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”
a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.
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“i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.
Smiddy,
Since my college days, I've heard atheists for years complain about the existence of evil being evidence that God doesn't exist.
When confronted with the many scriptures that show that God will judge evil, some atheists then claim that is also reason to not believe God.
This seems confusing and contradictory. So, just for the record could you explain once and for all if you are for or against the judging of sin/evil by God?
For me, it is inconsistencies like this that prompted me to abandon atheism/agnosticism.
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
waton,
Can you name a rock dating method that was correct when applied to a rock with a known age ?
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.
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“i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.
After these first two judgments for the believer, there are three more for: The Jews, the survivors of the GT , and the unrighteous dead.
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
Think of the billions and billions of suffering creatures because our world is based on predation.
Just for clarification:
Think of the billions and billions of suffering creatures because our [fallen and cursed] world is based on predation.
a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.
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“i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.
Seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it. How do you see it?
It is the destiny of everyone - believer and non-believer alike to be judged. (Hebrews 9: 27) But, they are not all judged at the same place, at the same time, or for the same reason.
Unbelievers and heretics, having rejected the salvation of God for a vicarious death and punishment in Jesus Christ, must then be judged by their own works, having rejected the work of Christ on Calvary Hill. This judgement takes place after the Millennium Reign at the Great White Throne. Here, they will be resurrected and stand trial in their fully integrated body, soul and spirit. This is the "resurrection unto damnation".
Also written about here: "The rest of the dead did not come to life until after the thousand years were finished".
The righteous dead, with their souls already in heaven will also be fully integrated with their body, soul and spirit in a glorified form... like Jesus had after his resurrection. This is the "resurrection unto life".... also known as the First Resurrection. They will be judged at the Bema Seat Judgement, probably while the Great Tribulation is wrapping up and the last of those sealed are martyred. This judgement doesn't determine salvation. That issue was settled forever at the cross.
The Bema seat judgement, also known as the Judgement Seat of Christ, is for rewards... called crowns in the bible. There are several types of crowns that will be available to believers.
The idea of a resurrection of people for a second chance in a paradise earth is a complete fiction and is not supported anywhere in the bible. The survivors of the GT who are allowed in will repopulate the earth, not resurrected people.
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
For Christians, it's because Jesus said so:
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
So the scribe said to Him, “Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He. And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”
But after that no one dared question Him.
Everything is based on the Resurrection. A man who has such wisdom and moral character as Jesus AND was raised from the dead is worthy of believing...... especially when compared to all the other options.
old news but uncle bruce wanted it dug up.... the guardian.
22nd july 1985.. man killed in blast.
at sydney service.. from richard yallop in melbourne.. one man was killed and 70 people were taken to hospital after a bomb exploded yesterday during a jehovah's witnesses service in a kingdom hall in the sydney suburb of lurnea.. the explosion occurred close to the speaker's dais just as mr. david winder, a visiting elder from the sydney suburb of prospect, had begun his address on loyalty to god and the family.
@ Parzival
What is the local consensus on why he did it?
